Stone tools should be added to BedWars

Idea:

Add stone tools to BedWars
I think Stone tools should be added to BW (BedWars) as everyone here is using deepslate and wood and buying tools everytime you die can cost expensive because the whole set of tool will cost 8 diamonds.

thats all ty

Basically nobody is buying both iron and diamond tools. If the problem is losing all your tools when you die, don’t carry them on you. Put them in your e chest and then use them when necessary.

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Their suggesting it for early game, tools can be really expensive early game and with deepslate being so over used there suggesting an early game counter it could also be good to have another teir for the axe.

That’s the problem though. Deepslate would be useless and bed defenses would be more similar to treasure wars. As in how easy they were to break through even with endstone. Also wood isn’t that hard to break through.

Who said the pickaxes have to be cheap, make them cost 5 gold so they at least have to upgrade there gen. Dont you ever see games where theres just 2 teams that have been fighting the entire game.

5 gold and 2 diamonds is still pretty cheap.

Third-partying solves that. They should have realized what was happening after 5 minutes (if they somehow aren’t third-partied) and requeued. Most of my games are over in 5 minutes since I just side rush everybody, but I know the majority of people don’t play like that. Also, I’ve played 400 games and only 1-2 people every other game also had a deepslate defense.

Whens the least time you enjoyed a game where you where third partied. 10 gold to purchase.

I’ve never enjoyed being third-partied. But sometimes it’ll happen and there’s little you can do about it. Also 10 gold is fair price since you have to put some good effort into getting it.

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Not gonna lie, I was disappointed with the fact that the deepslate meta hasn’t been changed for Season 2. Spending a large majority of the game fighting the same player because both you and your neighbor have deepslate is not fun. I don’t know what this trend is for Bedrock servers making tools more expensive in BedWars recently, but it needs to stop. Voted!

Quick solution: just dont let them get diamonds (wow ik so cool)

If you die to them chances are you werent winning anyways, not to mention just camp their base and diamond gen so they can never get a sword and they cant do anything…

Hope that helps!

The problem is that you’d need to resort to spawn killing them, and we all know that no one likes to be spawn killed over and over again. It’s just needlessly tedious, and it’s so easily fixable by having stone tools in the game.

Having to put up with a type of meta where the only early game solution for a stalemate like this is spawn killing is not fun for anyone.

I do kind of agree, maybe they could change it to terracotta instead though which can be broken into if you block in, which would remove the need for stone tools and possibly change the meta for using deepslate/terracotta early on.

I mean sure, but that would still be needlessly tedious and take too much time. The way I would personally balance out stone tools is by replacing deepslate with its cobbled variant, and increasing the price to 4 diamonds. Cobbled deepslate takes a bit more time to break, but it would make iron tools feel more important. Then for an early game defense, I would use concrete (I’d pick it over terracotta simply because concrete looks better) and have it cost the 2 diamonds deepslate costs right now.

Doing it like this means that you could opt for saving for a more powerful defense, or prioritizing speed by going for the concrete.

Yea but stone tools would make the deepslate meta kinda useless and horrible which is not a good thing as it makes it seem like Treasure Wars (a more sweaty game)

I don’t think there is a difference between deepslate and cobbled deepslate, did you actually test it? As for concrete and terracotta, I think terracotta breaks faster so that’s why I said it, plus it makes it easier for the enemy to not think it’s wool and ruin the rush attempt.

Honestly I think wooden tools would be better, but make them like 2 diamonds for both so they are roughly the same price as deepslate and they don’t become too OP.

Well if I’m being honest, I think the deepslate meta being there to begin with and resulting in a stalemate if both you and your neighbor have it is a bad thing on its own.

If anything, it makes the game even more sweaty since literally EVERYONE is clinging to it, and being forced to resort to spawn killing if the after mentioned stalemate happens since the only other solution is camping the diamond generator, which is ridiculously tedious, and does NOT make it any less sweatier since you’d still be forced to have to kill your neighbor over and over again.

Yes, I did actually test it. Regular deepslate has a hardness value of 3, whereas cobbled deepslate has a hardness value of 3.5. They have the exact same blast resistance, however.

Yeah, you’re right about terracotta breaking faster than concrete. I think concrete would better balance out stone tools because of its slightly longer break time though. It would take 0.95 seconds for a wooden pickaxe to break terracotta, and it would take 0.7 seconds for a stone pickaxe to break concrete. So, not THAT much of a difference in break time there.

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The player I get to play in bedwars are never good so this isn’t a problem for me. But what if deepslate costed 4 diamonds and a pick costed 2 diamonds

Lately, I’ve seen an increase in the number of good players. So, I’ve run into this problem quite a bit. That said, I still think deepslate should be an important part of the game. Having iron tools cost 2 diamonds and deepslate cost 4 diamonds would make deepslate feel a bit more unimportant, and result in the return of the Treasure Wars syndrome (Getting destroyed within 20 seconds of the game).

I think stone tools being gold would actually not be a terrible idea since you’d still have to balance between upgrading your generator and having a quick defense, but it wouldn’t result in a tedious spawn killing stalemate mess like with the current deepslate meta.

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