Solution to Non-Voters and Meh Spammers

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So, alot of people have already given their ideas for a solution to this so I’m going to my hat in the ring and give a go at it!

My proposed solution is pretty simple: If you vote good or above you will get exp. I’m thinking about between 1-3 exp per vote. And if you vote love you’ll be given the same amount of exp as good to not create the opposite problem. I’ll leave a comment with a poll so you guys can vote on it!

Now, in order to make sure this isn’t spammed, atleast half the lobby has to also agree the build is good or above. This is to prevent people just getting free exp from spamming good.

Now, the only major issue with this is that max levels won’t care to vote higher because the exp gain isn’t beneficial to them. My response to that is you tell me how often when playing public lobbies in Just Build do you play against a level 20? Not very often? That’s what I thought. Thanks for reading and Happy Hiving! :beedance:

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What Should The Amount of Exp Gained Be?

  • 1 Exp
  • 2 Exp
  • 3 Exp

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So now everyone will spam good or great?

Also most meh spammers are small kids who probably wouldn’t be aware of the change, even if it said in-game

What if people disagree with one another on how good the build is, it’s opinion based. Besides, everyone would always agree with eachother because they vote great or good for the xp.

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Unfortunately the problem would definitely persist.
Good would become the new meh, and people would still spam the lowest XP giving vote, as to not give the opponents an edge.
Also idrk if this happens but of someone is max level they would have no reason to vote good or higher.

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I prefer my idea of temporary banning players who spam meh or love for multiple games

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I’m going to be honest, this isn’t the way to get rid of meh spamming, and it only makes it unfair to people who vote more strictly than others (some people, for example, choose ‘ok’ as their baseline / average vote, and that’s fine by me). I also disagree with the suggestion made by @masonmasterbot about banning people for meh / love spamming, because it can easily be worked around by voting ‘ok’ or ‘great’ every once in a while, not to mention that it’s not really even against the Hive rules. I still agree that unfair voting is an issue though, but it needs to be addressed in another way.

Now I know it looks like I’m doing nothing but criticizing everyone’s suggestion, so let me offer my own one and tell you why it’s (probably) better: I’m thinking of having a 12 - player split into 2 groups (6 and 6) for solo games and a 24 - player split into 2 groups (12 and 12) for duos games (if it’s an odd number, say 21, it would be split into 10 and 11 players in each lobby, and parties and / or friends will be grouped into the same lobby to avoid unfairness). Each lobby will then vote for each other’s builds the same way that we do now. Or, even better, they would rate the builds from #1 to #6 (best to worst) in each of these games.

And here’s why I think it would be better: The way to combat meh spamming isn’t encouraging / rewarding higher voting nor is it punishing / limiting lower voting, but removing the incentive of unfair voting. With this suggestion, the people who you are voting for are no longer competing with you nor are they your friends or party members, and now the players who vote unfairly to gain an advantage by voting everyone else ‘meh’ or only their friends / party members ‘love’ will no longer get this advantage. I realize that people could still vote bad / inappropriate builds high just to be funny or troll, so in addition I suggested (as has been suggested before by others) a ranking system of best to worst to avoid every build getting a ‘meh’ vote and providing a way to drastically reduce the skewness of people only voting ‘meh’ to good builds and ‘love’ to bad ones. And there are a couple other side advantages from this suggestion too:

  1. It reduces voting time: Currently, there are 12 voting periods, but with this suggestion, there would only be 6, since each lobby would be simultaneously voting for the other’s builds. In the case where voting is based on a best to worst system, the voting time could be even shorter.

  2. Unlike many of the other suggestions that directly influence the way people should vote, this one doesn’t give any bias toward higher voting. It simply eliminates the main reason people vote unfairly.

Now, the only downside I can think of with this suggestion is that you may earn less exp since fewer people are voting for your builds, so for that I have a couple solutions to counter that problem.

  1. Lobby sizes could be 24 and 48 players for solo and duo instead, increasing the number of votes you receive (and with 2k+ players online at a time, this may not be as hard as it sounds). This, however, would lengthen the game back to the current voting time.

  2. Exp earnings could be based off of an average vote instead of a direct point scale. I like this better because it reflects more on how people think about your builds instead of how many people voted.

Honestly, I can’t think of anything wrong with this solution. In terms of gameplay, hardly anything actually changes, as far as I am aware. I’m sure you guys can find some flaws in my suggestion, and I would like to hear them to see if they can be worked around.

P.S. - I don’t think non - voters are a significant problem, since it automatically defaults to a ‘good’ vote if a person does not vote. It wouldn’t really affect outcomes since it is neutral (3 from a 1 to 5).

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yeah but for the meh voting thing, most builds deserve a meh vote bc they aren’t good at all

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Not every build is meh lol (in multiple games) especially if your against a level 20 like me :smiley: the ok and good options exist too

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You should copy and paste that into its own suggestion.
It’s a pretty good solution.

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i use meh to often but thats becauee im honest and just arent a fan of the build